Jo Walton ([info]papersky) wrote in [info]antici_food,

Getting around in Montreal

Montreal has an absurdly easy metro system -- only four lines -- and a very cleverly intelocked bus system. Every metro station serves as a mini bus-station, so you can always take the bus from the metro, and the metro from the bus. There are clear simple maps at every metro station and most bus shelters. All bus stops tell you what metro station the buses will go to next. You can buy a one day ($9) or three day ($18) tourist pass from metro stations where they anticipate tourists. Or you can buy individual tickets or an "Opus" card for $7 and then charge it with fares, either a number of individual tickets or a weekly pass. ($19.50). The pass or card is good on buses and metro. If you use tickets, they're valid for travel for 90 minutes from when you first use them.

The metro is totally inaccessible for wheelchairs. There are stairs and escalators everywhere. For people not in wheelchairs but with some mobility issues, there are usually escalators for big flights, but they expect you to be able to climb say 20 steps, and there are often random little sets of four or five steps just thrown in just for fun.

The buses however are totally accessible. They are almost all kneeling buses, they have ramps and seats that fold up. You can get anywhere on buses and avoid the metro, it just takes longer. Use the maps or feel free to ask me here or in email if you want to know in advance how to get somewhere on buses.

Taxis aren't very expensive, and fill in the holes public transit doesn't reach, such as transporting large or awkward things.
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[info]kshandra

May 31 2009, 23:59:42 UTC 2 years ago Edited:  June 1 2009, 01:12:14 UTC

It's my understanding that public transit in Montreal isn't overly wheelchair-accessible. Can you confirm/refute this?

[info]papersky

June 1 2009, 12:26:27 UTC 2 years ago

This should totally have been in the post, and I shall add it. I'm sorry I forgot about it and thank you so much for reminding me.

The metro is wheelchair impossible. There are stairs everywhere.

Buses are almost all wheelchair perfect -- they kneel, seats fold up, there's a button to extend a ramp. You can get anywhere on buses, but it takes longer. You can use the map to figure out which buses to take, or if you want to know in advance ask me -- really, I'm very good on bus routes.

And the short version is, if you want to go to anywhere that I've listed as metro Sherbrooke or Mont-Royal or Laurier, take the 55 up St Laurent and for Sherbrooke get out at Sherbrooke and get a 24 east, for Mont-Royal get out at Mont-Royal and get a 97 east, and for Laurier get out at Laurier and get a 51. For anywhere I've listed as Villa Maria, get a 55 up to Sherbrooke and take a 24 west to Villa Maria metro. These are all frequent (every 15 minutes or better) buses. Anything more complicated, look at the map or ask me.

[info]karen_w_newton

June 1 2009, 00:47:07 UTC 2 years ago

This is very helpful! Thank you.

[info]n6tqs

June 1 2009, 01:58:28 UTC 2 years ago

It looks like an Opus card with a weekly pass wins for more than 10 trips in the week. And even looks as if you can get to and from the airport. Can that card be gotten at the airport? That I can't figure out....
For me, it doesn't matter much, since I'll be arriving on Tuesday and then leaving on Tuesday.

[info]papersky

June 1 2009, 12:29:14 UTC 2 years ago

No, you can't get it at the airport. And getting public transit from the airport is a pain in the neck, it's two buses and then metro, and one of those buses, the 204 from the airport to Dorval bus station, only runs every half hour.

[info]n6tqs

June 1 2009, 15:37:09 UTC 2 years ago Edited:  June 1 2009, 15:41:56 UTC

That's not too bad. The STM trip planner says it can take as little as an hour to get downtown for $2.75. The next day I'll get a one-week pass and leave on that. I've even got the right change in Canadian in my money stash from last summer.

[info]n6tqs

June 1 2009, 17:20:26 UTC 2 years ago

Further- Google maps seems to think I can walk about 1.5km (19 minutes) from the air terminal to the Terminus de la gare Dorval and catch the 211 bus there for a 20 minute ride to Station Montmorency. I walk fast and am mobile with my baggage, so that seems to make the 30 minute headway for the 204 less significant.
Not for everyone, I'm sure.

The problem is, many airports really don't have provision for pedestrians (and cyclists) to access the terminal. Do you have any information about this?

Thanks for starting this, by the way.

Oh, and is the weekly pass on an Opus card a 7 day or calendar week pass?
I just assumed it was 7 day, but....

[info]kevin_standlee

June 1 2009, 18:23:36 UTC 2 years ago

I did not see any way for pedestrians to access the terminal on my site visit last month, although I admit to not looking for it. In retrospect, if there had been a way to get to the train station and take one of the commuter trains downtown, I would have preferred doing that over spending $40 each way on taxis.

[info]n6tqs

June 1 2009, 18:33:50 UTC 2 years ago

I just looked using the aerial photography mode of Google maps, and it looks as if I can cut through the parking lots to shorten the route significantly. It even shows what appears to be an unofficial path from the airport parking to the railway station parking.

It's a shame there's even a question about pedestrian access, but we have at least one bad example locally.

[info]kevin_standlee

June 1 2009, 18:39:43 UTC 2 years ago

Only one? Is there any pedestrian access to any of the three Bay Area airports? I did walk in to SJC once, but they've changed things around so much that I assumed they killed that path. I walked out of PDX once, but it's not a legal path; I was walking on a grassy median that almost certainly would have got me the unwanted attention of the police if they'd noticed me.

The only airport I can recall that has easy pedestrian access is SEA, where one could easily walk to the Sea-Tac Hilton if desired. (Which was one reason I felt sort of odd about the NASFiC going to so much trouble to collect me when I was FGOH. But they were trying to honor me, after all.) Sea-Tac also (last time I checked) also had reasonable short-term high-clearance vehicle parking, which is not easy at many airports like SFO whose only short-term parking is a parking garage where taking a 10-foot-high vehicle means you're going to clothesline yourself. (Lisa's Big Orange Van won't fit even if you take down the antennas.)

[info]n6tqs

June 1 2009, 18:53:00 UTC 2 years ago

Yes, you can walk (or bicycle) to and from OAK. I've actually been doing bike/ped counts out that way.
And you can cycle to SFO, but not walk (as far as I know)- there's even long term bike parking there.
I've not been to SJC in MANY years, so it's unknown territory.

[info]foms

July 20 2009, 03:52:21 UTC 2 years ago

The question is complicated by current road construction. They are rebuilding the interchange that serves the airport. After it's all over, a pedestrian walkway and bicycle path are planned but right now, it's more difficult than usual (though, I'm assured, still possible) to walk from the airport terminal to either the bus or train station.

[info]papersky

June 1 2009, 19:30:44 UTC 2 years ago

It's a Monday to Sunday week, I'm afraid.

You can technically walk from the airport to Dorval bus/rail station, but it's airport approach, there aren't necessarily sidewalks and it's nothing like clear. Every time I catch the stupid 204 I look at it and think no, actually, I don't much want to try walking this. I wouldn't say it would take 19 minutes though, more like 10, because it really isn't very far. Just it would be ten minutes full of scary junctions and no expectation of foot traffic.

The other way of getting from the airport, which I absolutely never do, is to get the aerobus to Berri. I think it was $15 as of last Farthing Party, it may have gone up. Now I never do this because I live here, and Berri is way over there, and a taxi here is $25, and there's usually two of us. But if you were one person wanting to get to the Palais, which is only two metro stops from Berri (or only about 20 minutes walk come to that) this isn't necessarily a bad plan.

Incidentally, somebody else is supposed to be putting or have put "from the airport" on the official website, this information is for the restaurant guide which people won't get until they're already at the Palais...

[info]n6tqs

June 2 2009, 16:18:23 UTC 2 years ago

My apologies for dragging this off on a tangent.
I hope whoever's doing "from the airport" is aware of this thread.

[info]darth_gofer

June 11 2009, 06:27:50 UTC 2 years ago

Hi Jo. I linked the 'from the airport' page from the Anticipation 'Travel' page some time ago, so it may be dated. Please give it a look to see if I need to change anything.

http://www.anticipationsf.ca/English/AirportShuttle

[info]papersky

June 11 2009, 15:45:26 UTC 2 years ago

Looks fine to me.

[info]kremmen

June 11 2009, 04:39:31 UTC 2 years ago

Combining "it's two buses and then metro" and "you can get anywhere on buses and avoid the metro, it just takes longer", do you know what the best accessible route is from the airport to the con?

[info]papersky

June 11 2009, 15:40:30 UTC 2 years ago

Take a 204 from the airport to Dorval bus station. Take a 211 from there to Lionel Groulx metro. Walk or roll or take a 108 bus 2 blocks south on Ave Atwater to Notre Dame, and then take a 36 bus east to Square Victoria and the Palais.

Of these, only the 211 is a frequent bus. The 204 runs every 30 minutes, the 108 runs every 30 minutes, the 36 runs every 20 minutes. This could be a lot of waiting about, but it would only cost $2.75!

Alternatively, if the timing worked out better you could take the 108 north from Lionel Groulx to Atwater metro and then take a 150 bus (also every 30 minutes) along Rene Levesque, getting out at St Urbain and going down one block to the Palais.

Which hotel are you in? Because it might make a difference for which of these made sense. If you're in the Intercontinental or the Delta, definitely you want the first option, but if it's the Holiday Inn, the second would be better.

[info]kremmen

June 14 2009, 14:22:42 UTC 2 years ago

Excellent. Thanks. (We'll be at the Delta.)

[info]anton_p_nym

June 1 2009, 15:58:14 UTC 2 years ago

I did a little Google-hunting a while ago and found this page for the tourist cards, but I haven't found any information on getting Opus. Note that the tourist cards are sold at the Place d'Armes station, which is the one that serves the convention site.

-- Steve still hasn't decided whether it's better to get weekly passes or just a couple of 3-day tourist cards, given that the convention straddles two calendar weeks.

[info]knabria

June 3 2009, 20:56:07 UTC 2 years ago

You may also want to check MetrO to help plan any trips using mass transit while in Montreal. MetrO software is a free public transportation guide (400 cities worldwide) available for both PDA & Smartphone. We tried it during Nippon 2007. It made navigating the JR railway system that much easier.

http://nanika.net/Metro/
http://metro.nanika.net/imetro.html

[info]lost_cosmos

July 21 2009, 03:18:35 UTC 2 years ago

can i buy one of these tourist cards or load an opus card in hull quebec and it will work in montreal?

one of the advantages of living in ottawa is that i can access the STO stations in hull using my ottawa bus pass easily so when i travel down to montreal i can already HAVE this stuff ready, if possible. course the people in hull are pretty rude about these things to ottawa folk who don't speak french.

[info]papersky

July 21 2009, 05:59:16 UTC 2 years ago

I have no idea, I've only been to Hull once and I was in a car at the time.

It doesn't say you can on the STM webpage, so you probably can't. If you're in Hull and find out, please post and let everyone else know.
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